Krishna worships Shiva

Krishna worships Shiva

Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Thursday, October 10, 2013

iskCON is wrong 2




Proofs that SHIVA AND VISHNU ARE EQUAL and Isk’con Mis-interpretations REVEALED ---

1.
SB 4.7.54 ORIGINAL statement --- Lord Vishnu tells King Daksha (father of Sati) --- “He who of the three ((Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva)) having ONE NATURE, verily, of the Supersoul in all beings, DOES NOT SEE THE SEPARATENESS, o brahmin, realizes the peace.”

2.
The SAME LINE is told by Lord Shiva to king Daksha in SHIVA MAHA PURANA.
Additionally, Lord Shiva also says —

“ The FOOLISH PERSON who sees separateness among the three of us, DEFINITELY remains in HELL for the time as long as the moon and the stars are in the sky.

Daksha ! if a Vishnu devotee degrades lord Shiva and if a Shiva devotee degrades lord Vishnu, then BOTH THESE TYPE OF DEVOTEES will automatically get all the ‘curses’ that have been given to you and these types of devotees will remain devoid of tattva gyaan.” i.e. the highest spiritual knowledge.

So, you can clearly see, if there had been any difference among the three, then Lord Vishnu or Lord Shiva would have mentioned it; but it is not so.

3.
SIMILAR LINES have been found in the RAMAYANA written by Goswami Tulsidas.

In the Lanka Kaanda, LORD RAMA ESTABLISHES THE RAMESHWARA SHIVA LINGA AND WORSHIPS LORD SHIVA before proceeding on to the battle.

Lord Rama declares that – “If a person degrades lord Shiva and calls himself My devotee; and if a person degrades lord Rama/Vishnu and calls himself Shiva devotee, THEN THAT PERSON IS A FOOL, HELL-RESIDER AND POOR-MINDED.”

So these are the CLEAR-CUT and TRANSPARENT MEANING lines from the Main Hindu Puranas to which every person ((male & female of every age group)) of Sanatana Hindu Dharama ACCEPTS UNCONDITIONALLY.

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And now see the Crooked Interpretations of the ISKCON regarding the above points.

1.
Opposing the 1st point, Iskcon cleverly give example of their Own Written ‘Brahma-Samhita’.
They say that---

Lord Vishnu is MILK
Lord Shiva & Brahma are YOGURT
In order to achieve REAL peace, TAKE ONLY MILK (Vishnu)

By saying so, Iskcon is CONDEMNING THE NON-SEPARATENESS stated by lord Vishnu Himself.

While the Supreme lord Vishnu is laying stress on “eka bhavanam – i.e. One Nature”,
Iskcon is INTRUDING IN BETWEEN saying that there is “MILK & YOGURT PHILOSOPHY.”

ORIGINALL FACT ---
Yogurt is formed when pure milk is attacked by “Lactobacillus” bacteria.
SO MILK DOES NOT REMAIN IN ITS TRUE NATURE i.e. 2 natures are created.
Nature 1- Pure milk
Nature 2 – Milk infected with BACTERIA

So any person will never have same feeling for yogurt as for milk.
Because milk and yogurt Cannot Be Used for the same purpose at the same time. ((Nobody eats yogurt while drinking milk.))

HIDDEN FACT ---

Actually, iskcon is trying to say ---As Milk and yogurt can’t be used for same purpose;
Simiarly Liberation Can’t Be Attained By Worshipping Shiva, But ONLY by Vishnu.

You can see the BRAINWASH done at the ‘Minute Level’.

The QUESTION arises: ---
If “Milk And Yogurt Philosophy” is true, then ---

Why didn’t Ved Vyas introduce it by consulting Iskcon and why didn’t Vishnu preach this same philosophy?????

2.
Opposing the 2 nd point, Iskcon totally rejects it because they say – “ This fact is from Tamasic Purana and hence LEADS TO HELL.”
So, TOTALLY REJECTED BY ISKCON. (what a Cheap mind !!!)

3.
Opposing the 3 rd point, Iskcon makes 2 SILLY EXCUSES –-

1. They DON’T ACCEPT Goswami Tulsidas and say that “NO such incident is written in Valmiki Ramayana.”

2.Even if someone insists, then Iskcon says ----- “If a father takes the child on his shoulders, then it does not mean that the child is more important than father.”

QUESTION arises---
If it is true, then Rama would have said: “Although I Am Worshipping You, Yet I Am Your Father And You Are My Son.”

But Lord Rama didn’t say anything like this.


MORAL OF THE DISCUSSION: (Personal opinion)

1. Iskcon is in NO WAY ready to accept that Shiva is equal to Vishnu; whatsoever proof you may put in front of them.

2. They are like a frog in a well, which is not at all ready to accept that there is something like Ocean.

3. Whoever tells them that the “Brahman” is supreme, Vishnu and Shiva are equal; they start shouting that You Are Mayavadi demon!!!

Wednesday, October 9, 2013

The Significance of Tamasic Puranas


“The division of the 18 Puranas is defined by Lord Siva to Goddess Parvati as classification into Sattvika, Rajasa and Tamasa in PADMA PURANA.”

CLICK THIS LINK ----

http://www.iskcondesiretree.net/forum/topics/why-do-sastras-contradict-regarding-absolute-truthpage=1&commentId=2103886%3AComment%3A1399678&x=1#2103886Comment1399678

SUMMARY of 4 verses ---
1) Satvika Puranas lead one to liberation.
2) Rajasa do not cause good.
3) Tamasa puranas SHIVA PURANA etc. lead one to HELL.

By reading these verses, anyone may start BELIEVING that ---- Worshipping Only VISHNU or KRISHNA ((Supreme Gods of Satvika Puranas)) will attain Salvation whereas those worshipping Brahma and Shiva ((Supreme Gods of Rajasa & Tamasa Puranas )) will reach upto Brahma Lok and Hell respectively.
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Clarification on the above ISKCON promoted RUMOUR----

The QUESTIONS arise ---

1. If Rajasik & Tamasik Puranas DO NOT cause any good and leads one to Hell, then why did Ved Vyas write these MISLEADING PURANAS for the common people ???

2. Why did Ved Vyas not write ONLY Vaishnava Puranas for the welfare of people ????

3.Ved Vyas OUGHT TO HAVE written “THE PRECAUTION” at the starting of every Rajasik and Tamasik Puranas that ---
“ CAUTION !!! …… These SHIVA PURANAS etc. written by ME are only for TIME-PASS & MISLEADING the public. DO NOT TAKE THESE SERIOUSLY, Otherwise you will END UP IN HELL”……………
Why Did Ved Vyas Not Write Something Like This ?????

4. Iskcon people PROUDLY say that “Srila Ved Vyas” --- (( writer of all 18 Puranas including their FAVOURITE Srimad Bhagavatam )) --- was an incarnation of the Supreme Personality Of Godhead KRISHNA.
If it is true,,,, then WHY DID KRISHNA WRITE THESE MISLEADING PURANAS TO DEGRADE COMMON PEOPLE ?????

5. How can the “GODHEAD Incarnation”- Ved Vyas be so IRRESPONSIBLE towards its children ((Human Beings)) by providing them WRONG and MISLEADING SCRIPTURES that DRAG THEM TOWARDS HELL ????

ACTUAL REASON OF CATEGORIZING THE PURANAS----

1. All the 18 Puranas are MEANT TO ELEVATE the human beings ((From Their Respective Gunas)) to the Nirguna Tattva i.e. beyond the three Gunas.

2. Each Purana DIRECTLY ELEVATES a person belonging to particular guna, to the Nirguna Tattva.

3. The Sattvik Guna is at the highest level among the 3 Gunas, below it is Rajasik and Bottom-most third is Tamasik Guna.

4. The BEST EXAMPLE TO UNDERSTAND is ----

In a 10 storeyed building,
Some people are residing at the Ground Floor (Tamasik Guna)
Some persons are on the 5th Floor (Rajasik Guna)
Rest of the persons are on 8th Floor (Sattvik Guna)

To reach the 10th floor (Liberation) of the building, the Owner of building has set up 3-ELEVATOR SYSTEM.
(3 types of Puranas)
Not just 1, BUT 3 ELEVATORS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED to pick the persons from their respective floors to the Top floor

First elevator is of HIGHEST POWER as it has to Upbring the people from Ground floor.
Second elevator consumes LESS POWER – 5th floor to 10th
Third elevator consumes LEAST POWER – 8th floor to 10th

In this way, the owner has maintained Complete Harmony by providing 3 SEPARATE ELEVATORS to the 3 classes of people.

But, some persons of 8th floor (ISKCON) with LESS BRAINS start shouting ---
“My elevator is superior to the other two”,…….. “Only my elevator works and other elevators are Not Authentic”,…….. “Come and join my elevator”, “Only my elevator leads to 10th floor while other two will lead to BASEMENT (Hell !!!)

Don’t you think-- the persons shouting in this way are MORE STUPID than those standing at 5th and ground floor ????



REVEALED with Logical Reasons

Bhagavad Gita says --- 
1. “Tamasic Guna …….((not Tamasic Purana)) ….is the MOST INFERIOR of the 3.”
2. “Nobody in this universe can fall FURTHER BELOW the tamasic guna.”
……….. as nothing is below tamasic guna – “Mode Of Ignorance”.

So, keeping these points in view, rishi Ved Vyas categorized all the 18 Puranas.

IMPORTANT PONTS ---

A) We all know………….. (including ISKCON people)

1. Sattvik Guna (Mode of Goodness) ----- top
2. Rajasic Guna (Mode of Passion) ------- Middle
3. Tamasic Guna (Mode of Ignorance) ---- BOTTOM

B) All the 18 Puranas have been written to DIRECTLY ELEVATE the common people from their RESPECTIVE GUNAS TO THE NIRGUNA TATTVA (Brahman)………….. (Already discussed)
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Since these above mentioned points are true and without any MIS-interpretation,
the Logical CONCLUSION are ----

1. Sattvik Guna is already at the Top among 3,…(Very near to the Nirguna)
So, Sattvik puranas do the LEAST WORK.

LOGICAL REASON --
In Kaliyuga, very few people are Sattvik.
((may be around 10 %))
SINCE they are already in the ‘Mode of Goodness’,………. they require VERY LOW DOSE ((like 2 Polio drops))….

So the PURANAS PROVIDED TO THEM DO THE LEAST WORK to elevate themselves from Sattvik guna to the NIRGUNA LEVEL.

2. Rajasic guna is Below the sattvik,
So, Rajasic Puranas do comparatively MORE WORK than Sattvik puranas

LOGICAL REASON --
In Kaliyuga, large number of people are Rajasik
((around 30 %)) ………. They are the Films & Sports Celebrities, Businessmen, etc.

SINCE they are in the ‘Mode of Passion’,……….. they require COMPARATIVELY STRONGER DOSE.
((like Half bottle of Polio)) …………. To bring them into SENSES (nirguna level)

3. Finally comes the TAMASIK Guna …. “MODE OF IGNORANCE”

Tama’sick Guna people …….(60 % of total) ……are in COMA !!!
Obviously, VERY HIGH DOSE required

You can yourself imagine …… what type of treatment is given by (Dr.) Ved Vyas ……to these Tama’sick People.

Full bottle of Polio + Injections + ICU (intensive care unit) treatment

so, from the above discussion with you HOLY READERS,

CONCLUSION is -----

Shiva Maha Purana,.... being the CROWN of Tamasic Puranas .... is the MOST POWERFUL

SOME SPECIAL EFFECTS ---
If accidently, any of the persons belonging to 'Sattvik' or 'Rajasic' Guna finds himself/herself DEGRADED,...... then Don't worry, .... 

Come and read the Shiva Maha Purana and get the Strongest DOSE and very sophisticated ICU treatment to ELEVATE yourself to the NIRGUNA LEVEL.

It is only the ISKCON people who treat the Rajasic and Tamasic Puranas as UNTOUCHABLES.

They don't Even try to READ or PAY RESPECT to these Puranas

Sunday, June 30, 2013

For all those who believe in Krishna Supremacy..

1. Krishna is an avatar of Lord Vishnu. Every sacred text of Hinduism explains this fact. Lord Vishnu took human form and lived in earth, solving problems as a human along with humans.

2.Krishna was born in Dwapara Yuga and he died after fulfilling his Karma. There is no single instance in which Krishna appear anywhere before his birth. He is not even mentioned in Ramayana. Lord Vishnu is timeless but not Krishna. He lived his life like a human and died after getting shot by an arrow.

3.Krishna worshiped Lord Shiva. As Lord Vishnu is an avid devotee of Lord Shiva, his avatars were all worshipers of Shiva as well. Parasurama being more prominent.

4.Krishna is not mentioned in the Vedas. No single reference of him. Krishna was born after the origin of Vedas, so obviously he was not indicated in them.

5.Krishna is one of 10 Avatars of Vishnu. No one before Krishna's birth worshiped him.

6.Radha is not mentioned in any of the classical puranas except the scriptures created by the gaudiya vaishnava cult. Not even Srimad Bhagavatam contain any reference of Radha. She is a literary character originated in the Common Era.

7.Lord Kalki is the final avatar of Vishnu. Not Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. While Kalki is mentioned in the Puranas, there are no references of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu in any of the Puranas or Vedas. His teachings are anti-Vedic.

Nothing else need to be said....




Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Shiva Linga

There are many stories concerning about Shiva Linga and why instead of having an idol with Shiva's form, people worship Linga. It might probably be one of the most misunderstood thing in the entire world. Most people along with Anti-Hindus and iskcon followers believe that Shiva Linga is nothing but penis of Lord Shiva and the base/platform of the Linga is the vagina of Shakti Devi and that the whole symbolizes the union of Shiva and Shakti. They consider Shaivites to be primitive by believing this blasphemy.They point out various stories from the Puranas which says Shiva was cursed or his 'lingam' was cast upon earth to be worshiped and so forth.

Lets get to the basics. 'Lingam' also means 'Symbol' in Sanskrit and there are someother Sanskrit words denoting 'penis'. Not in any instances of the Puranas, no other word except 'Lingam' was used. Thus, Lingam is nothing but the Symbol of Shiva. Does the base of the Linga seem anything like a vagina?

Why all these extra symbols to make people confuse? They might ask. Let us consider this scenario, I get stranded on an island. I have no tools or any materials. All I have is my mind and the body. I want to worship God. Unlike other religions, Hinduism supports worshiping idols because only yogis have the ability to succeed in idolless worshiping like deep meditations(Well, Muslims pray in the direction of Kaaba and Christians to the cross. Arent they Idols as well????) . So, I need to make an idol as Im no brilliant yogi. I dont have marble or tools like that of iskcon to create a wonderful glamorous statue of God. What is the simplest thing I could do? What is the simplest relic or statue any one could create? You ever seen kids making sand castles in beach? They dont need artistic talents or skills in architecture. Anyone could form a Lingam buy grabbing the soil from plain earth. Thus I could successfully worship God without being rich in gadgets or a sculptor. This is what the early men did as well. They never had the ability to create huge complex idols. The simplest way to worship God is making an idol of Lingam...which anyone could successfully make.

I dont know how to explain the structure of Shiva Linga using words. Judging the fact that everyone could understand by viewing the picture Im gonna leave that matter.
So. Shiva Linga is just a simple form. What is so great about it?

Shiva Linga is a Center of Energy. In my previous articles, I've said that Hindu Gods are representations of Energies and Shiva is the Energy of Destruction. Scientifically, energies are more settled in such formations like that of the uppermost end of the Shiva Linga. Take a look at the shape of the Nuclear Reactors, Atom Bombs, Energy/electricity saving cells etc. Isnt it close match with Shiva Linga? The base or platform of such nuclear reactors act as a stabilizer controlling the chain reaction to prevent massive explosions. So the idea behind Shiva Linga and the significance of its base is such. Shiva Linga symbolizes and also holds massive energy and it is not erotic sculpture of  sex.Nuclear energy has the capacity to create the whole universe(big bang, electricity generation) and to destroy it as well(no examples needed).

Every tradition of Hinduism(except for the recent ones made up by the followers) has a scientific background.No substandard, blind minds of idiots would ever understand the value of these. It is such a shame that even people of iskcon, being called themselves as Hindus cant even understand the value and scientific greatness of Shiva Linga.